I can understand why they banned this on youtube because it isn’t politically correct, and people don’t want to believe these people want to destroy the western civilization as we know it.Take a good look at Great Britian! The radical muslims have been internally destroying them for quite some time now,you’d think it would be a wakeup call for americans and our worthless politicians!!

If a multi-culturalist studies multiple cultures, why aren’t we aware of these things given how long the Multi-Culti agenda has been pushed? Could it be that the Multi-Cultis only study what’s wrong with America and Western Civilization instead of actually studying multiple cultures?

The multi-cults game plan is to tear down not correct or improve. The politicians want us off balance and fearing so we will work with them. Just so it keeps them in power.

This is the only video I can’t see. What am I doing wrong?

Do you feel the cold,
through buttress stone seeping?
Does this wretched cause,
lay cuddled with you sleeping
Married to the wilted line,
cold, boney fingers creeping.
Crawling ‘round your crooked spine,
beyond the bitter frost of weeping,
Where warm bloods do not go.
Worshipping slaughter,
as death’s sad tribute,
to the un-cowed we,
who believe in some things more,
than evil’s frigid lee,
of hatred, pain, and gore.
Oh! Do you feel the cold,
marring humanity’s core?
This is your legacy.
The stuff in failures fold,
of hegemony and disgust,
as cold as Man is old.

Haha i can see y youtube wouldn’t show this—to much truth for brainwashed netkiddy liberals to handle. srsly fuck these muslims every last one needs to be wipe off the planet

Hopefully they come for you douchebags next.

90% of Muslims are not radical jihadists, they are normal people including U.S. citizens that deserve the same rights and respect as the rest of us. Every cultural group has its radicals. The real war is between religious extremists on both sides – Christian fundamentalists in America and Islamic fundamentalists in the Middle East. You deserve each other. Let the rest of us settle this like civilized humans.

America Rocks….That’s called moral equivalency….You may well be right that 90% of Muslims are not radical jihadists….But respectfully, I know of no mass movement of Evangelical Christians – and I am not one (just your garden variety Protestant here) – in America that is devoting itself to mass murdering people who are not Evangelical Christians. All Germans in 1933 were not, after, Nazis. But once Nazis took control, as with any group where violent thugs have the loudest voice, all Germans were tarred with the brush and wound up paying a terrible price for not speaking out. The 90% of Muslims you speak about should be out separating themselves from the other 10% in a loud and clear fashion. The fact that they don’t says something about the fear factor. America Rocks…we have been here before in human history…and the idea that you can “settle this like civilized humans” should have lost its attraction in the concentration camps of Germany when the first of what would be six million exterminated Jews walked inside…

Jeff

This is a joke, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjW204QSAsM

This exact video wasn’t banned on youtube at all. In fact, it’s been up since October 2006. That was eight months ago! WAAAAYYY before QubeTV was created.

I don’t buy that there’s a liberal bias on Youtube, wikipedia, the internet or the news. Websites like QubeTV.tv, conservopedia.com and fox news are just trying to polarize the country into liberal vs. conservatives instead of solving problems.

You are correct, Jeff, there is no Evangelical Christian group devoted to murdering people who are not Evangelical Christian. Of course, Christianity has had some rough patches over the years, but by restricting your simile to evangelicals in America you’ve effectively given yourself only a… what, eighty-year window of history, in a small section of the world? Christianity had its blood (Crusades, inquisitions, Protestant purges in Ireland, etc.) and so has America (Native Americans, Japanese internment, etc.) And with FuckTerrorists up there calling for the death of every muslim, I’d say you don’t have much longer to wait for evangelical Christians.

Phandy….

It is always interesting that those who put the news out there in a liberal format are never the polarizers…Only if you dissent from the liberal world view are you polarizing…Decidedly a “my way or the highway” approach, no?

One big liberal problem, evident from somewhere in the late 1960’s on, is a furious resentment towards dissent – unless of course they are doing the dissenting. This intolerance is one of many reasons so many liberals became conservatives…

Jeff, there are plenty of polarizing movements that are liberal. I consider Hillary Clinton to be polarizing but for different reasons than the ones I mentioned above (she’s a political opportunist). However, Hillary Clinton isn’t the issue. My point is that anyone can contribute to youtube or wikipedia so the perceived “liberal bias” is at best a reflection of demographics (young, cosmopolotan) but definately not because videos are being banned for political reasons.

The problem, Phandy, is not that “anyone” can contribute…The problem is what they CANNOT contribute….We booted a photo (doubtless troll inspired) of Senator Obama that urged his assassination and was using, obviously deliberately, racist language that I bet you’ve never used in your life…So I understand there are limits…But when a video making fun of Bill Clinton’s North Korean policy (made by a serious Hollywood guy) gets the boot there’s a problem…

But to take your point…If you haven’t read it I think you should read Wikinomics….And realize that Qube (and yes we’re still young – hey – cut us some slack!) is part of the real revolution out there that revolves around mass collaboration..The You Tube guys were first – good for them, I salute them – but just because Henry Ford invented the automobile doesn’t mean every car has to be a Ford.

More later….

What I’m concerned about is that QubeTV might do the same thing to the internet that Fox News did to news, that is polarize and politisize an otherwise neutral medium for public debate. You’re concerned about political censorship, and I think that’s great because political censorship sucks and I think you should fight that, but I’m worried that sites like this are dividing the internet the same way news is divided (once Fox was established as conservative for example, CNN automatically became too liberal or some bullshit).

Listen, I don’t want you to feel like I’m attacking your website so I’ll add some more “constructive” into my critisism. Why don’t you make a moderated version of youtube specifically for political debate from both sides of the political spectrum? This won’t be cross-fire, you don’t fight spin with spin or lies with lies. Write a charter that adheres to some basic rules based on critical thinking and reasonable debate and moderate your videos based on that. There are unreasonable people on both sides (cut them out!) and the US desperately needs a dialogue with REASONABLE people and a DIVERSITY OF IDEAS. Please don’t become another Fox News or Conservopedia. Please don’t draw another battle line between conservatives and liberals. We need constructive debate and you have the opportunity to provide that.

Phandy – We are planning a debate feature on here. The idea is a grassroots conversation with the media elites – or with each other. We will keep an eye on this. Name-calling, something I honestly see as a serious problem with liberals (and it didn’t use to be like that)will be a minimum. That said I don’t want to have too heavy a hand here. This site, like YouTube, is being designed so people can speak their piece. Beyond the extremes of violent and abusive videos I really expect to hear from mainstream conservatives. I have to admit I only learned about the conservative Wikopedia very recently and still haven’t had a look. As to Fox, I watch and indeed have been a guest on both Hannity & Colmes as well as John Gibson’s “The Big Story”. I am always amazed at people who confuse opinion shows like the above (plus O’Reilly etc) with the straight news section of the network, which to my eye certainly looks not all that different from other networks.

I do believe strongly in the clash of ideas. But like a lot of conservatives I have a lot of friends who are liberals (not to mention family members!) I simply don’t believe in painting the “other guy” as evil. Wrong, fine. Not thinking something through, sure. It’s great to use humor (Reagan – he too a reformed liberal – was a master at that. He loved to tell jokes, many on himself, and never hesitated to zing his opponents.) We do need a diversity of ideas – you have offered some here in this round and I both appreciate it and will bear it in mind as we go. I am working closely with all manner of people at the core of this movement to get their material on this site, material that lets illustrate their ideas themselves.

Thanks for this post – I will try and get over to Something Awful and jump in a bit so people can pound away at me….I don’t mind in the least as long as I can further solid debate and, but of course, promote QubeTV :)!!

Do the people that watch Qube believe the top two Republicans candidates for president must be put to death because they are divored? I hope not, but if you’re a christian you must believe this, because the Bible says so explicity in the New Testament.

Now, if you feel it is unfair to cite the Bible against you, why do you feel it is fair to use the Koran against Muslims?

Oh, look. Ana Marie Coxuker has noticed this website:

http://time-blog.com/swampland/2007/05/the_medium_is_the_message.html

Wave a finger, everyone!

PeaceNoBush….

The last I checked there are no Christians anywhere in America busy stoning adulterers or chopping heads off someone because they are divorced. Use the Koran against Muslims? You’ve got to be kidding…There are real Islamic fascists out there actually chopping off people’s heads and blowing up kids with suicide bombs in the name of the Koran…This is a spectacularly silly argument…

PeaceNoBush

Please cite your source re: a New Testament commandment to stone divorcees. (I know you don’t have one, but I’d be interested in seeing whether your response is “Oops, I meant Old Testament” or whether you will admit that you knew it was wrong and just wanted to how long it would take for someone who has actually read the Bible to call you on it)

Mr. Phaeton

How do you get from “F***terrorists” to Evangelical Christians? Is there some kind of embedded symbol that identifies a poster’s religious affiliation?

Comparing Christians to Radical Islam Murdering garbage is just plain stupid. Today is all that matters and today it is the islamo-faciasts terrorists who are killing people who don’t agree with them or “insult” them. Christians do not act like that. When is the last time you saw a video of a radical Christian sawing off somebodies head?

Phandy, where do I start. Most of the Liberals (big "L") I have come in contact with (including myself some 20 years ago) are not interested in, nor can they usually grasp, logical arguments based on what we can possibly know. They therorize, philosophize and attack the Conservative as Inhuman, Nazi, etc. You can not debate when one side is Emotion based and the other Logic based. Examples? DDT (banned by the Left, millions died), Communism/Socialism (works for Ants, not people, > 100 million victims), Global Warming (No water vapor in the models, CO2 follows temp changes, etc.) and on and on. Mostly, if you just wait long enough a Liberal will become a Conservativevia a process known as maturing. It’s the ones that don’t even care enough to know why they vote R or D that really frighten me. Ignorance is fine if you’re not wielding a dangerous weapon like a Vote.

Dang, sorry for the double post!

The libbies might start learning something when the muzzies slit enough of their throats.

The libbies might start learning something when the muzzies slit enough of their throats.

I want to be able to link these videos to my myspace page and on the bulletin board there, I do that with several youtube videos already, is there a way to do that on this site?

I can’t seem to find a way.

Let’s see Jeff.. The Bible says"Love your enemies" and the koran says “Kill the infidels” through out… They both sound radical to me, which do you think is more dangerous?

jeffmogul -

You never responded to Phandy’s point about why you’re calling this “banned by YouTube” when it’s been on YouTube since October of last year. Doesn’t this “banned” claim seem at all dishonest to you? If so, how can you persist in making it with a clear conscience?

Also, jeffmogul, I assume you’re referring to David Zucker’s Madeleine Albright commercial when you mention “a video making fun of Bill Clinton’s North Korean policy (made by a serious Hollywood guy)”. Again, this has been on YouTube at least since last October. What are you talking about? Is there any evidence at all that YouTube has ever once “banned” anything for having a conservative point of view?

Whether we win or lose the anciently ordered war of annihilation that Islam has declared on us is dependent on one thing.

Whether we use our nukes before or after they have theirs.

Whether we win or lose the anciently ordered war of annihilation that Islam has declared on us is dependent on one thing.

Whether we use our nukes before or after they have theirs.

jasontoon on May 04

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/006064.htm

Michelle Malkin’s videos get yanked from YouTube pretty routinely.

And it is often done in surreptitious fashion, like “This Video Removed by User” notice when Michelle is the user and didn’t remove it!

Often, other conservatives will REpost the same video when this happens.

May be that someone is looking only at Michelle’s videos and thus miss the same video reposted under another username.

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The sad fact of the matter is that human nature hasn’t changed much over the last 5000 years, and if there is one cause of all the strife and wars over all that time it can be summed up in one word—-“Diversity.” The politically incorrect (and really very funny) novel The Polity of Beasts is precisely about this issue, which is why, I suppose, it comes from a small press.

It’s not banned. I just watched this very same video on YouTube. Here it is:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jOb6Vh3qaAY

I’ve had videos banned from YouTube because they could … not because of anything on my part. I am on YT’s enemy list.

I don’t know how long I’ll be there before they throw me off entirely.

Michelle, stay tough!

Best,

Reid

This is not banned from YouTube. It’s right here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=DjW204QSAsM

If you look at the posted date it’s been there since October 06, 2006 and it has nothing but positive comments.

Why does the right-wing have such a ridiculous persecution complex? They’re always yelling censorship even when it doesn’t exist.

This isn’t banned at YouTube. I’ve seen it there. What gives?

hmm. i don’t think this wan banned on youTube. but if it were, did you ever think it was because it was a substantially more stupid than the chinese guys lip synching to britney spears?

90% of Muslims are not radical jihadists, they are normal people including U.S. citizens that deserve the same rights and respect as the rest of us.

Only 3of Germans were Nazi’s but the other 90 were afread to do anything and this is 10% or more.

i hope qubetv is NOT neutral. Like Rush says, it’s not about right versus left, it’s about right versus wrong.

Lets do a little questionnaire on the Pim Fortuyn murderer:

He spend a lot of his money on:
A. A bookshop known for selling comics and radical literature
B. Cow manure quotas allowing him to own cows
C. Drugs, specifically XTC and cocaine
D. Donations to the PKK which is on numerous lists of terrorist groups

He followed what dietary rules:
A. He liked his food Halal
B. He tried to stay Kosher
C. He was a vegan
D. He ate nothing but fruit

The AP story quoted in the movie messes up what facts:
Fortuyn running for prime minister OR the killer being arrested in a carpark near a radio studio

Answer key:
B. By buying up quotas he prevented others from owning cows, expensive and effective.
C.
Both (Fortuyn ran for parliament, there is no election for prime minister in the Netherlands, IIRC the killer ran to a nearby gas station after the murder in the car park, hence the pursuit.)

Crazy? not really, just an animal rights activist.

Now lumping people in a “they” category may be a quick and easy way of making sense of a very complex society. But if you dump a professional animal rights activist from a rural predominantly Christian bit of the Netherlands along with Khomeini then you risk ending up with very little “us”. And if you include animal rights people in them there can be no doubt that “us” doesn`t include any violent Christian Identity groups.

Any chance this video is a prank?

> The Bible says”Love your enemies” and the koran says “Kill the infidels” through out
Have you seen the bit of the Koran named “The infidel”? Its only a couple of lines, and I kinda like it.

> “Why does the right-wing have such a ridiculous persecution complex?
> They’re always yelling censorship even when it doesn’t exist.”
I suspect that among some of the media strategist of some of those in the US organized around the GOP there is a PR tactic of delegitimization of the mainstream media. “Don`t trust the newspapers, trust the politicians”

America Rocks on Apr 16
Hopefully they come for you douchebags next.

That was a nice sentiment, AR. Thank you for that.

90% of Muslims are not radical jihadists, they are normal people including U.S. citizens that deserve the same rights and respect as the rest of us.

90% you say? All right. So if there are about 1.5 billion Muslims worldwide, you are willing to concede that 10% are radical jihadists; 10% of 1.5 billion is 150 million! If a mere 19 jihadists can topple two skyscrapers, punch a hole in the Pentagon, and threaten to smithereen our Capitol, imagine what 150 million jihadists could do if given the chance!

Every cultural group has its radicals.

Probably true, but irrelevant. Not every cultural group’s radicals want to commit atrocities to impose its culture on other groups. Only radicals from the cultural group known as “Islam” want to do that.

The real war is between religious extremists on both sides – Christian fundamentalists in America and Islamic fundamentalists in the Middle East.

Really? I guess I must have missed all the atrocities and terrorist acts committed by those evil American Christian fundamentalists. You will provide links to the news stories showing us the Christian suicide bombers, the Christian hijackers slamming jets into skyscrapers, the Christian crusaders kidnapping non-Christian journalists and decapitating them as they videotape the murder so that young Christian crusaders in Christian countries can watch the fun on their video iPods.

You will provide these links to prove the statement you made, America Rocks, or you will forever be branded a fraud on QubeTV.

What is the name of the psychological sickness that causes folks to deny an imminent deadly threat when it’s all around them? Is there a description?

Mohammedanism is a virulent cancer. Even so called ‘good’ Muslims can breed deadly jihadis because if anyone ever actually reads and studies the Koran and thus follows it … they will be pedophile polygamous genocidal psycopaths …. just like Mohammed was.

This cult should be walled off from the rest of the world and allowed to self-destruct. There really is no other option. (unless we might just kill them all outright but we know THAT will never happen) The libs will allow Islam to take over the world. They will help them as they themselves are consumed by it. A new and dynamic form of insanity in the world.

The only possible solution I can think of is for healthy minded conservatives to move South and secede. We could then begin behaving rationally as a smaller rational nation. Otherwise the libs are going to take us all to Hell within twenty years.

Michelle Malkin is great. She is so bright and such a straight talker.

Unfortunately, we have lost much in the way of our Freedom of Speech to the PC Police.

The lunatic fringe have taken over control of the curriculums in most our colleges and universities and of course they control much of the Media, as well. Consequently, this country is producing far too many Kool-Aid drinkers who cannot or will not think for themselves and simply repeat the mindless slogans put before them by those with a far-left agenda.

>>
>>"Why does the right-wing have
>>such a ridiculous persecution
>>complex?
>> They’re always yelling
>>censorship even when it doesn’t
>>exist.”
>I suspect that among some of the >media strategist of some of
>those in the US organized
>around the GOP there is a PR
>tactic of delegitimization of the
>mainstream media. “Don`t trust
>the newspapers, trust the
>politicians”
Those were rhetorical questions. You suspect correctly.
I get the impression that you’re not from the US. I am, and the delegitimization of the mainstream media (along with academia and science) is obvious to anyone who’s been paying attention and who hasn’t been brainwashed by it.
They’ve spent decades painting the mainstream media as “liberal” (which they’ve made into a very dirty word). Meanwhile Fox News, which is basically the mouthpiece of the Republican Party, is marketed as “Fair and Balanced” which is totally ridiculous.
Now they’re claiming that websites like YouTube and Wikipedia are controlled by leftists and making false claims of censorship. The sad part is that many people fall for it.

The Nazis built a large industrialized military machine. As did the Japanese.

The right in this country needs to stop wetting their pants and THINK about how to change peoples minds. BOMBING them is what we have been trying for decades… either directly or through proxies like Saddam.

THINK…. what are ALL possible ways of changing these people?

THINK…. how did the christians finally stop killing everybody?

Stop thumping your chests and THINK.

Sorry for the duplicates.

Is anyone curious why there wasn’t even a reason mentioned for why this was banned – is everyone always going to be expected to believe everything without question?

If i missed that reason given, i’d like to see what it was – just to be enlightened.

I’m a little hesitant to ask if anyone else tried uploading it there too, just to see if there wasn’t a mistake somewhere (Because that would only make sense to try).

Yeah, QubeTV.

jeffmogul on May 03

The last I checked there are no Christians anywhere in America busy stoning adulterers or chopping heads off someone because they are divorced.

No, they just beat the crap out of Jews & gays because they’re vaguely offended or threatened by them. Muuuuuuch more civilized.

This is hilarious. I just watched this vid on You Tube.

The funny thing is all the hate speech following this video. All these morally superior Christians out there who seem to lack knowledge of their history. The glorious history of lack of tolerance and wars up to the 1800’s aside, any of you guys live in England during the 70’s and 80’s? Any of you have families in London during the Harrods bombing? Well, I have had the pleasure to experience all of this. Just to let you know, it was Christians killing Christians in that “war”. Yes – all Jesus believing, God fearing, devout CHRISTIANS.

Face it, man is capable of horrible things. Men use religion to bring out the worst in others. To create division and wage war. Looks like many of you are no different from some of these radical Muslims.

Finally – do any of you even know why we are in this situation? No – it isn’t because “They hate freedom”. If you believe that, I have WMD’s to sell you. Do any of you know that we overthrew a democratically elected government in Iran in 1953? Do you know that we supported the Shah and his secret police? Do you know the weapons that we sell the Saudis and the support we give their secret police? Do you know that after the Shah left Iran, we took him in and Nixon called him a great friend and ally? Now – if a foreign country did all of this to the US – what would do?

To paraphrase MLK, a free and democratic world should be our goal and the only way that we can bring that to the world is to lead by example. We preach free markets, but have huge subsidies to farms and tariffs to imports. We preach about democracy, but continue to support monarchies (Jordan, Saudi) and dictators (Pakistan, Lybia) and countries with miserable human rights (UAE, Saudi …) like we have in the past, we will be in for a very, very long war.

No need to post a reply. I just heard of Qtube and checked it out. Nothing but a scam to rally against the “liberal media”. You know – the Liberal media who gave Clinton the pass on the Monica deal and the one who seriously questioned the administration leading up to the war. The liberal media who glorified the stage rescue of Jessica Lynch and who have been in lockstep with this administration (till last year) on the war. Keep it up guys – you are an endless source of humor for me.

Take care and treat others as you wish to be treated. You get what you give, so some of you need to keep your eyes peeled!

Sorry for the extra posts. THe interface leaves a lot to be desired.

If this is truly a war for our civilization, why hasn’t there been any sacrafice asked for? The only thing I remember Bush ever saying is the American people should go shopping. Why isnt Malkin over there fighting for our way of life? Why havent the Bush girls volunteered? Can you imagine what a difference it would have made before our invasion of Iraq if Bush would have said “I have asked my daughters to volunteer”. But of course that would never happen. It is really amazing to me that anyone would ever believe that Youtube has a liberal bias. I think reality has a liberal bias.

As far as Iraq goes, the reason for the “surge” is so that Baghdad can be secured so that the Shia and Sunni can come to a political settlement. These people have been at war for 1300 years and we think that they will come to a settlement in a few months??!! HA They also are planning on taking July and August off for vacation. Too bad our troops cant do that too.

If we wouldnt have entered and occupied Iraq maybe we would have found and killed these people that are trying to kill us. Like say, BIN LADEN!!! But of course as Bush says “I dont think about him anymore”.

Wake up conservatives!! This “commander guy – the decider” is ruining the republican party and our country as I write this. I used to vote Republican quite often. But until they get rid of the neo cons I never will again except in local elections.

George McGovern: Cheney is wrong about me, wrong about war
The 1972 presidential nominee strikes back at the vice president for comparing today’s Democrats to the McGovern platform.
By George S. McGovern, GEORGE S. MCGOVERN, a former U.S. senator from South Dakota, was the Democratic nominee for president in 1972.
April 24, 2007

VICE PRESIDENT Dick Cheney recently attacked my 1972 presidential platform and contended that today’s Democratic Party has reverted to the views I advocated in 1972. In a sense, this is a compliment, both to me and the Democratic Party. Cheney intended no such compliment. Instead, he twisted my views and those of my party beyond recognition. The city where the vice president spoke, Chicago, is sometimes dubbed “the Windy City.” Cheney converted the chilly wind of Chicago into hot air.

Cheney said that today’s Democrats have adopted my platform from the 1972 presidential race and that, in doing so, they will raise taxes. But my platform offered a balanced budget. I proposed nothing new without a carefully defined way of paying for it. By contrast, Cheney and his team have run the national debt to an all-time high.

He also said that the McGovern way is to surrender in Iraq and leave the U.S. exposed to new dangers. The truth is that I oppose the Iraq war, just as I opposed the Vietnam War, because these two conflicts have weakened the U.S. and diminished our standing in the world and our national security.

In the war of my youth, World War II, I volunteered for military service at the age of 19 and flew 35 combat missions, winning the Distinguished Flying Cross as the pilot of a B-24 bomber. By contrast, in the war of his youth, the Vietnam War, Cheney got five deferments and has never seen a day of combat — a record matched by President Bush.

Cheney charged that today’s Democrats don’t appreciate the terrorist danger when they move to end U.S. involvement in the Iraq war. The fact is that Bush and Cheney misled the public when they implied that Iraq was involved in the terrorist attacks of 9/11. Iraq had nothing to do with the attacks. That was the work of Osama bin Laden and his Al Qaeda team. Cheney and Bush blew the effort to trap Bin Laden in Afghanistan by their sluggish and inept response after the 9/11 attacks.

They then foolishly sent U.S. forces into Iraq against the advice and experience of such knowledgeable men as former President George H.W. Bush, his secretary of State, James A. Baker III, and his national security advisor, Brent Scowcroft.

Just as the Bush administration mistakenly asserted Iraq’s involvement in the 9/11 attacks, it also falsely contended that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. When former Ambassador Joseph Wilson exploded the myth that Iraq attempted to obtain nuclear materials from Niger, Cheney’s top aide and other Bush officials leaked to the media that Wilson’s wife was a CIA agent (knowingly revealing the identity of a covert agent is illegal).

In attacking my positions in 1972 as representative of “that old party of the early 1970s,” Cheney seems oblivious to the realities of that time. Does he remember that the Democratic Party, with me in the lead, reformed the presidential nomination process to ensure that women, young people and minorities would be represented fairly? The so-called McGovern reform rules are still in effect and, indeed, have been largely copied by the Republicans.

The Democrats’ 1972 platform was also in the forefront in pushing for affordable healthcare, full employment with better wages, a stronger environmental and energy effort, support for education at every level and a foreign policy with less confrontation and belligerence and more cooperation and conciliation.

Cheney also still has his eyes closed to the folly of the Vietnam War, in which 58,000 young Americans and more than 2 million Vietnamese died. Vietnam was no threat to the United States.

On one point I do agree with Cheney: Today’s Democrats are taking positions on the Iraq war similar to the views I held toward the Vietnam War. But that is all to the good.

The war in Iraq has greatly increased the terrorist danger. There was little or no terrorism, insurgency or civil war in Iraq before Bush and Cheney took us into war there five years ago. Now Iraq has become a breeding ground of terrorism, a bloody insurgency against our troops and a civil war.

Beyond the deaths of more than 3,100 young Americans and an estimated 600,000 Iraqis, we have spent nearly $500 billion on the war, which has dragged on longer than World War II.

The Democrats are right. Let’s bring our troops home from this hopeless war.

There is one more point about 1972 for Cheney’s consideration. After winning 11 state primaries in a field of 16 contenders, I won the Democratic presidential nomination. I then lost the general election to President Nixon. Indeed, the entrenched incumbent president, with a campaign budget 10 times the size of mine, the power of the White House behind him and a highly negative and unethical campaign, defeated me overwhelmingly. But lest Cheney has forgotten, a few months after the election, investigations by the Senate and an impeachment proceeding in the House forced Nixon to become the only president in American history to resign the presidency in disgrace.

Who was the real loser of ’72?

THE VICE PRESIDENT spoke with contempt of my ’72 campaign, but he might do well to recall that I began that effort with these words: “I make one pledge above all others — to seek and speak the truth.” We made some costly tactical errors after winning the nomination, but I never broke my pledge to speak the truth. That is why I have never felt like a loser since 1972. In contrast, Cheney and Bush have repeatedly lied to the American people.

It is my firm belief that the Cheney-Bush team has committed offenses that are worse than those that drove Nixon, Vice President Spiro Agnew and Atty. Gen. John Mitchell from office after 1972. Indeed, as their repeated violations of the Constitution and federal statutes, as well as their repudiation of international law, come under increased consideration, I expect to see Cheney and Bush forced to resign their offices before 2008 is over.

Aside from a growing list of impeachable offenses, the vice president has demonstrated his ignorance of foreign policy by attacking House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for visiting Syria. Apparently he thinks it is wrong to visit important Middle East states that sometimes disagree with us. Isn’t it generally agreed that Nixon’s greatest achievement was talking to the Chinese Communist leaders, which opened the door to that nation? And wasn’t President Reagan’s greatest achievement talking with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev until the two men worked out an end to the Cold War? Does Cheney believe that it’s better to go to war rather than talk with countries with which we have differences?

We, of course, already know that when Cheney endorses a war, he exempts himself from participation. On second thought, maybe it’s wise to keep Cheney off the battlefield — he might end up shooting his comrades rather than the enemy.

On a more serious note, instead of listening to the foolishness of the neoconservative ideologues, the Cheney-Bush team might better heed the words of a real conservative, Edmund Burke: “A conscientious man would be cautious how he dealt in blood.”

Kirkbrew you ignorant slut. The ole ‘America is the real problem in the world’ arguement. I’ll just focus on one of your ignorant/stupid statements. ie The Shah’s secret police: Every government in Central Asia uses secret police. It’s just the way it is there. For that matter Asia as a whole has to have secret police because somebody is always trying to bring down ANY government installed.

In the chess game of geo-politics one nation deals with whomever it has to in power within another nation. I’ve known dozens of exile Iranians here in the US, who seemed like fine folks to me, who loved the Shah and prospered under his government. Was his rule anything like a free representative democracy? No, but it was 1000% better than a repressive theocracy ruled over by murderous Islamists as Iran now suffers from.

Yes we meddled in Iranian affairs. Right along with just about every other nation on earth. We have to. We always have and we always will have to. It’s geo-politics. If we withdrew from these efforts then some other power would take our place. China for example. Or the EU. Its a question of balance of influence and it must be prosecuted. This is just the way the world is.

Iran was a prosperous nation under the shah and had the opportunity to achieve more and more democracy and freedom. Not now. You of course, because you despise your own nation, blame the present Iranian situation on America. Blame it on Jimmuh Kahtaa because he’s the one that aided and abeted the mullahocracy’s takeover of that nation.

Yes this nation exercises influence over other nations. We push them towards free capitalistic democracy and we aim to make a profit. We don’t enslave other nations or practice hegemeny. Look at our trade balance. Look at our foreign aide and the billions of private donations in humanitarian efforts. Are we perfect? No but we are a damn sight closer to it than any other nation on earth.

And as to our legitimate use of deadly force here and there around the planet: It’s the same as in geo-politcs. Its necessary and indespensible. If we cease to violently opose the Islamist expansionism popping up in Asia and Africa we will pay a terrible price down the road. They don’t hate us because we resist them and oppose them. They hate us because we are infidels. Islam must conquer the whole earth. If it does not it fails to be Islam.

Well said, scottr!

Illinoiswoman…

I thought the Left was saying the Patriot Act was too MUCH of a sacrifice and they wanted to go back to 9/10….Just couldn’t bear to have overseas phone calls from those connected to terrorism listened in on..Now, that’s a sacrifice I admit. But you’re obviously not there with the basics so why should Bush or the rest of us ask for more?

Please explain!

KlugeBoy, I never said Liberals were more rational than conservatives. My stance is that instead of having websites that favor partison attacks on either side, we should have reasonable debate that don’t resort to appeals to emotion and attacks on religion like this video. I have seen reasonable (and unreasonable) people from both conservative and liberal camps. Instead of dividing news, and the internet into exclusively conservative enclaves, we should be making websites that examine the “facts” and try to sift out the truth from the damn lies that float around everywhere.

“Of course the people don’t want war. But after all, it’s the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it’s always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it’s a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger.”

— Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials


The Patriot Act is the work of NeoCons. NeoCon = NeoFascist.

The reason why I don’t like this video is that it critisizes Muslims for being violent than seems to suggest that it’s a feature inherit in there religion. Other posters have noted that EVERY religion/country/ideology with very few exceptions has had a violent past. Muslims aren’t particularly special in this regard. Americans accept the idea that we must go to war or use violence to defend American ideology across the globe but that’s exactly what they’re doing in the middle east. Critisizing violent behaviour than beating the war drums is like the pot calling the kettle black. The reason why Muslims seem particularly more inhumane than we are is because they don’t have the luxery of having overwhelming weapons superiority.

Jeff, I believe the “war” Illinoiswomen was referring to was the war in Iraq, not the War on Terrorism. The Patriot Act has nothing to do on the War in Iraq and the sacrifice she’s alluding to is a draft. In order to secure a country the size of Iraq, generals have noted that we’d need at least twice as many troops as there are already on the ground. A “surge” is a step in the right direction, but unless you plan on following through; it’s only going to waste your time. The only way we’d get enough troops up there and “get the job done” is to issue a draft, which no politician has the balls to do or even mention.

Scottr: So, your great rebuttal to defend the Shah of Iran was basically “Shut up, that’s the way we do things! it’s called geo-politics, you ignorant slut”? First off, we’ll never know what would happen if the US had never interfered with Iranian politics, so to assume that other nations would would be a bit presumptuous. Remember the domino theory used to justify the Vietnam war? Instead of communism spreading throughout south-east asia, communist Vietnam actually overthrew the oppressive Khmer Rouge, stopping a horrific genocide. I severely doubt that overthrowing democratically elected, progressive governments with slightly socialist tendencies was ever a good idea. In fact, it’s exactly the reason why the US is hated in Latin America and the Middle East.

drm604: What I find funny is the right and the left are accusing each other of the same things. Liberals think the media are controlled by corporations pushing a right-wing agenda. Conservatives think there’s a vast left-wing conspiracy by environmentalists and Al Gore. It’s like watching people argue with a mirror. It’s entertaining at first, but I’m finding it extremely frustrating and annoying.

So, Phandy … you are neither right nor left. Just what DO you believe in? Evidently you feel neutral in the culture war? It is a war by the way.

It’s just not come to shooting yet. I despise liberals. They are liars and moral relitivists and they are well on their way to destorying Western Civilization. Given they pretty much control the vast majority of mass media, Hollywood and the universities …. I suspect representative government can’t be far behind.

Granted I’m not too fond of the right’s capitulation to the corporations either but at least we manage to put the worst of them in jail from time to time. They might not really believe in capitalism but so far they are forced to keep practicing it.

Have you seen “Children of Men”? (movie) Forget about the ‘all women on earth are sterile’ plot line. It’s just a vehicle anyway. That movie is the future for mankind if we don’t stop all trying to have our own way.

The Right are not the revolutionairies in this game. The Left are. They are the ones who want to trash a long functioning system and build a ‘better world’. A world vastly different from America. Well, over my dead body. Mine and like 20,000,000 other Americans. We will fight to the death to resist the Left and their ‘Command and Control’ eletist system. It’s evil, wrong and sick. Just read Orwell. Orwell was a prophet and everything he warned us about is coming true right before our eyes. It’s uncanny really.

But your are above all this right Phandy?

Oh, and Phandy ….. your rewrite of history regarding Viet Nam is pure BS. Who fed you that load of crap?

Scottr: It’s not that I’m neutral in the culture war, it’s more like there’s nothing to gain from the “culture war”. Both sides are accusing the other of lying and both sides are right. Each side “spins” the story to best represent their side of the story best. I can sit down and call conservatives/liberals flaming retards and drawing cartoons as long as I like but it’s not going to get anywhere, understand? What the world desperately needs is to sit the fuck down, stop trying to see everything as “left” and “right” and try to sift through all the garbage information out there and pull out the facts.


I’ll show you how futile this culture war is by looking at your post. Starting with your second paragraph you claim that liberals control Hollywood, the media and the universities. Those are the largest institutions that propogate American culture, education and entertainment. If you genuinely believed this, why would you use a Hollywood movie as a part of your argument in paragraph 4? How can liberals be both revolutionaries trying to overthrow the long established American system yet at the same time be the puppet masters behind educating and grooming the elite scientists and business leaders of America? One of these arguments must be false, your arguments are pure spin. At best you’re simply inconsistent or confused.


So what I’m interested in is the truth, and I believe that the best way to get there is to have honest dialogue so I’ll start by your critisism with my version of Vietnamese history.

Just so you know, I am Vietnamese, and I take great interest in the history of the country of my parents. Here’s a news article about the day Vietnam overthrew the Khmer Rouge. http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/january/8/newsid_2506000/2506533.stm


You’re accusing me of rewriting Vietnamese history. Do you actually know what you’re talking about or are you grasping at straws here?

Oh, and it’s funny. I talk to liberals and they also use Orwell to illustrate how conservatives are ruining America. In fact, had I switched the words “left” and “right” and other similar words in your last post, I could easily pass it off as a liberal view-point (with the exception of the paragraph about corporations).

There’s a great quote from Nietzsche: “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”

Phandy, so if Viet Nam is such a nice place under the communists why don’t you go live there?

You are not interested in the truth. If you were you’d see the obvious truth that the American system …. based on the original constitution and its ammendments … is the finest governmental system ever devised by man and needs no improvement.

You believe in nothing. Choose a side Phandy cause those in the middle take crap from both factions. Your superior ‘above it all’ positon is junk. I will admit that extreme Left and Right positions might as well be the same. Mainstream American traditional values however are not extreme.

The Left’s revolutionary ideas have held sway here in my country for about forty years. I know …. I watched the tide turn around my 17th year. I listed to my university professors touting Che Quevara at KU in ‘68. I took the drugs and learned to hate my own country cause I was too dumb to see the Left’s lies.

I’ve been all the way over on the enemy’s side Phandy and I can tell you from a first hand view that they are determined to destroy this nation and this system. The Left are the radicals. Not us. The Left are those that do not believe that men deserve freedom. Man must be controlled. There is no end to that control Phandy. Once you start controlling, it just gets worse. Yes it can happen from the Right too but believe me … this is not now the danger. It is the Left that must be resisted. It is the Left that will tax us into poverty. It is the Left that will devide us one against the other into a thousand little special interest groups …. all hating each other. It is the Left that will encourage illigetimate birth …. thus insuring children will be raised without fathers. It is the Left that will contiue to allow crime to flourish and put us all behind bars in our own homes. It is the Left that will promulgate a million laws that no man, no government, no system could possibly ever keep up with. It is the Left that will bring thought control legislation. It is the Left that will put a gun to our heads and force us to give our hard earned money to ner-do-well assholes who refuse to work.

Of course all this is already well under way. But Phandy is above it all. Anyone who can’t see the truth about the culture war is a fool. Your parents risked death to get you here and now you won’t even defend the place. You are dispicable.

Phandy, about the movie. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. It’s mostly an English flick anyway I believe. Part of the beauty of the piece is that ignorant leftists look at it and think it’s a leftist movie. A trained mind looks through the surface of it and sees something else.

uh….

Not banned by YouTube…

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3j-ssmR29g0

Phandy, so if Viet Nam is such a nice place under the communists why don’t you go live there?



Scottr: This is not an argument, this is a strawman set up to take the discourse away from facts. I never said Vietnam was a “nice place to live” or communism was better than any other system. All I’m trying to prove is that American military intervention havn’t always been beneficial to the world or America itself. Political solutions can be and quite often are more effective and cost many less lives and resentment than military ones, and Vietnam is my example.

“that the American system … based on the original constitution and its ammendments … is the finest governmental system ever devised by man and needs no improvement.”


Do you know what an amendment is? It means that someone decided the original constitution needed changing and they changed it! Should we repeal woman’s suffrage and take away their right to vote because it wasn’t included in the first 10 amendments in 1789? Should we reinstate slavery because it was abolished only 100 years ago? This is an extremist viewpoint; I don’t care if you’re conservative or liberal, but no one believes this. America has changed a lot since 200 years ago and change is a part of what makes America great.

The rest of your comment is an appeal to my emotions without any insight into history or attempt at analysis of world events past or present. Do you realize that prohibition of gay-marriage is a law by the government that says who can marry and who can’t based on something as trivial as gender? Do you realize that many laws are necessary for the functioning of free markets? Does this mean that laws are also necessary to facilitate free trade? Who proposed the patriot act? Which position is liberal, and which is conservative? How would the war in Iraq be funded without taxation? Other advanced western capitalist nations have much higher taxes and more developed infrastructure and social programs, like Canada, Sweden and the Netherlands why aren’t they fascist? Answer one or as many of these questions as you like earnestly and maybe we can have some honest dialogue.

But Phandy is above it all. (…) A trained mind looks through the surface of it and sees something else.

I am not the one claiming to be “above it all”; you are. I am not the one basing my political and economic beliefs on Hollywood movies, you are. Stop reading dystopian fiction from Orwell and apocolyptic movies like Children of men and start reading real books by actual conservative thinkers. Read about Barry Goldwater, the father of American conservatism and books by Francis Fukuyama, a political economist and one of the fathers of the neo-conservative movement. Many of the neocon ideas can be traced from his book: “The end of history and the last man”. After reading that book, read his latest book: “America at the crossroads” to see how his ideas have changed over time.

Phandy, I am not claiming to be above it all. I openly, in every way I can, advocate the utter destruction of the Left. It may come to open warfare and that’s fine … because they obviously aim to enslave me and all mankind.

Actually I believe you on the Left have already won however. We are so far over the crest and down the slippery slope that there is no finding our way back. My only hope is that maybe we could get the South to secede again. I don’t want to live in a nation run by you and yours. I’d rather split this country in half than give in to your sick mentality.

I don’t want to sit down with the Left and discuss some sort of compromise with them. I want to crush them. Utterly. I’m sick to death of their multi-culti bigotry and their eletist-hollier-than-thou demagoguery. The Left has nothing to offer mankind. Nothing except slavery.

It’s time you fessed up Phandy. You are a lib. It’s pretty obvious. Anyone that is willing to overturn the very definition of marriage … time honored throughout all of human history … to placate and pander to at most 2% of the population is liberal in the extreme. Extreme.

Not that I give a sh!t what you think but I’m much more than a paleo-con than a neo-con. I reject utterly an isolationist-fortress-America mentality. We need to do more actually by way of intervention. We should institute a draft and have at least a million men in the field right now. We should be killing Islamists wholesale all over Africa. I think it would be in our interests to invade Lebanon as well and straighten that mess up. While we’re at it we should utterly crush Syria and bomb Iran back to the Stone Age.

But we won’t Phandy. We won’t because cowards like you are pretty much the majority now and you will snivel and whine and grease the skids of America’s slide into oblivion. I just hope you are around in person to see your children forcibly converted to Islam: A sick culture that DOES know how to conquer liberals. Boy do they know.

You will never accomplish your Brave New World however. Islam will own you.

Phandy says: “The reason why I don’t like this video is that it critisizes Muslims for being violent than seems to suggest that it’s a feature inherit in there religion.”

Uh, Phandy … come down out of the clouds. It IS a violent religion. The Koran directly instructs to forcibly convert or enslave all people … everywhere. Not a few hundred years ago. Today.

It is the only major religion that does this. It is also the only major religion incapable of reformation. It cannot be reformed. To even attempt to do so is an instant death sentence. Fatwa time.

Judahism went through a violent period three thousand years ago but limited to Canaan. Nothing it it’s texts suggest continued violence. Nothing about forced conversion or conquering the earth.

Same with Christianity which is just reformed Judahism. That the Popes completely perverted The Scriptures and turned Christianity into a political force and practiced conquest is not the fault of the religion itself. Such behaviour is absolutely prohibited in the Bible but Rome had other ideas …. as did the latter Europeans.

Islam is in and of itself a violent political movement disguised as a religion. A complete sham devised by a willey ole pedophile/murderer: Mohammad

That you pretend this is not true is why we despise you libs. Now run along and go play on Dailey Kos cause we really don’t want you around here. Argueing with a lib is like arguing with a fool (same thing) or a contrary child. No point in it. We don’t want to debate you or compromise with you. We don’t like you lib lady.

if someone could tell me where i can download a copy of this, I would gladly host it on youtube.

Ugh… do I actually have to be the one to explain this?

YouTube doesn’t ban videos. How could they? They don’t review every single video before it goes up to make sure it isn’t already banned.

They ban POSTINGS. The original posting of this video was removed, but it has been reposted a number of times.

Just because it’s on YouTube now, doesn’t mean it wasn’t removed.

Seems Phandy has abandoned us lowlifes. Good. I can’t help but comment however on her citing Fukuyama as some sort of authority as regards the conservative movement.

In a word: Sheesh! Thank God conservatism is not driven nor even guided by ‘thinkers’. This guy actually describes and explains the human condition through two other ‘thinkers’. Nietsche and Hegel. O …. M …. G!

Hegel … an eletist snob so brilliant that no one can agree to this day what he was trying to say. His intellectual ramblings are so obtuse … so totally lacking in anything resembling common sense or real world actuality … they might as well be the babblings of a complete moron.

Nietzsche: Fack! No comment necessary. (see Hitler).

Conservatives need to understand that conservatism flows from The Messiah through St. Paul. Not from Barry Goldwater or RWR or any other ordinarry human.

Scott,you ever go to www.patdollard.com?If not you should stop over.

Hey Scottr, I didn’t abandon you. I was enjoying my saturday. I’m glad you were waiting up though.

I never mentioned Hegel (or read anything by him, so I don’t even know what you’re talking about) and I quoted Nietzsche because that quote applied to you and people like you not the “human condition”. I’ll show you how in a bit.

“He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”

What does this mean? Basically it means if you’re going to fight something, you have to be careful you don’t become the very thing you’re fighting against. Let’s look at your last few posts.

The Left has nothing to offer mankind. Nothing except slavery. (…) The Koran directly instructs to forcibly convert or enslave all people … everywhere. Not a few hundred years ago. Today. (…) Islam is in and of itself a violent political movement disguised as a religion. A complete sham devised by a willey ole pedophile/murderer: Mohammad

So, you’ve made it pretty clear that you hate the left because the left will strip our freedoms away and you hate Islam because they’re violent and incompatable with western civilisation. What is an acceptable way of dealing with it?

I openly, in every way I can, advocate the utter destruction of the Left. It may come to open warfare and that’s fine … because they obviously aim to enslave me and all mankind. (…) I want to crush them. Utterly. (…) My only hope is that maybe we could get the South to secede again.

If you have ever traveled to any western country outside of the States like Canada or western Europe (with the exception of maybe the UK) you’d realize that most countries fly WAY farther to the left. Whether you realize it or not, you are declaring war against western civilization for the same reasons Osama Bin Laden is.

We should institute a draft and have at least a million men in the field right now.

I don’t know what you think slavery is, but forcing people at gun point to join the army to fight something they don’t believe in fits this description. In biblical times, slaves were in fact often used in armies.

We should be killing Islamists wholesale all over Africa. I think it would be in our interests to invade Lebanon as well and straighten that mess up. While we’re at it we should utterly crush Syria and bomb Iran back to the Stone Age.

This is genocide. If you’re going to put a death sentence on anyone purely because of political beliefs (liberal) or religion (Islam), that’s what it is. I’m not against capturing or killing actual criminals like Osama Bin Laden but the fact that we’re no where nearer to capturing him as we were 6 years ago is an indication that killing random brown people isn’t solving the problem at all. Canada is your largest trading partner and 10 times more liberal with (practically) legalised marijuana and legalised gay marriages, yet they’ve very little military and absolutely no way of enslaving anybody even if they wanted to. There are plenty of Islamic countries that are completely peaceful and have pro-western foreign policies. The United Arab Emerirates, Saudi Arabia (with some exceptions), Jordon and others are some examples and not to mention some 100 million muslims living in India. You’re declaring war on a people who have done no crime nor have any bad intentions.

In short, you’re not that different from the violent, militant Islamics of the likes of Hezbollah or Al Qaeda. Yeah, advocating a civil war and killing other (liberal) Americans (and by corollory, Canadians, Swedens, and liberals around the world) is more extreme than legalising gay marriage (which has already happened in Canada, without any signs of slavery so far). You can barely make a post on the internet without contradicting yourself.

Oh and by the way: “Judahism went through a violent period three thousand years ago but limited to Canaan. Nothing it it’s texts suggest continued violence. Nothing about forced conversion or conquering the earth.”

Read Deuteronomy, I’m pretty sure they have a death sentence for worshipping other gods there. Either way, there’s no shortage of violence in the Old Testament. No Islamic person has ever tried to convert me or approached me about religion, yet plenty of mormons have, so I don’t even know where you get these ideas.

My ultimate point is this: if you’re a violent person, you can find plenty of excuses to commit violence in the Old Testament, or the Koran. There are plenty of peaceful Muslims and Christians that don’t get enough credit for not being messed up, militant “kill ’em all” extremists.

Don’t bother posting again if the only thing you’re going to talk about is how much you hate liberals. I get it.

’Radical Muslim paramilitary compound flourishes in upper New YorkState
Islamberg also has a website with photos: http://www.islamberg.org/
By Paul L. Williams Ph.D., (author of THE DAY OF ISLAM)
Check out americancongressfortruth.com for the article or the website about this peaceful looking community.

Conservatives need to start their own communities. Living in a world with liberals and 10% of radicle muslims is very scary. And I am not, nor was I ever a prejudice person. I firmly believe in ‘love thy neighbor’ and I do not judge people. I believe in the ‘love the sinner not the sin’ way. But I know that this way of thinking is simply not what many other people believe. (as evidenced by the Culture of Death and the radicle muslims) I really enjoyed the movie, ‘The Village’ and have joked about moving to Montana and doing something similar. Maybe I should take these thoughts more seriously. Anyone know of any nice Conservative Communities where people strive for virtue but also believes in arming themselves to protect their loved ones and their beliefs???

Hey Phandy …. glad you’ve been havin fun. I brought up Hegel cause Fukyuyama loves the guy.

You cannnot compare Judahism/Christianity to Islam. NO WAY .. no how. Because the Jews slew a bunch of child sacrificing idol worshipers three thousand years ago … does not a similarity make.

Almost everywhere on earth now where there is terrorism … it’s promulgated by muslims. The muslims who practice real, orthodox, by-the-book Mohammedanism. We MUST fight them. Violence directed at such monsters is no vice.

I didn’t hate liberals when they were of the sort as John Kennedy or Hubert Humphrey. (hell, I was one) I do hate them now however because they are generally anti-American self hating bigots I just cannot live with. Conservatives believe in live and let live and we will put up with a lot …. but you all have gone way beyond the pale. The culture war will only get hotter and I say bring it on.

Just an aside: If anyone should be calling for toal war upon jihadi Muslims … one would think it would be the feminitsts. I thought feminism was a cardinal virtue within liberalism. No?

Yet we see the Left ever striving to ‘understand’ even apease Islam. Would they behave so towards Rush Limbaugh if he so much as jokingly implied that women should be kept barefoot and pregnant …and in the kitchen? No. They would want his job. His reputation and they would even be trying to find a way to sue hime into poverty and put him in jail.

Meanwhile Islam advocates and indeed does treat women like sled dogs and the western Left is upset with us conservatives for treating them unfairly and even with prejudice.

What does this tell us? Simply that the Left hates America so much that they will even make common cause with devils.

Let’s see, you said:
You cannnot compare Judahism/Christianity to Islam. (…) Islam is in and of itself a violent political movement disguised as a religion. (…) conservatism flows from The Messiah through St. Paul.

I don’t know too much about Islam nor Christianity but based on what you’ve said in the last few days:

Islam is a political movement disguised as a religion that aims to destroy western civilisation and other religions as well.

(paleo)-Conservativism is a religion disguised as a political movement that aims to destroy liberalism (which includes most of western civilisation since most nordic, western european and Canada is more liberal than the States which is already too liberal for you) and of course, destroy Islam.

Extremist muslims and Extremist Conservatives sound pretty much exactly the same in philosphy and intent. The fact that it’s “ok” to kill muslims because “they’re not really human” says more about you than anything else. Remember, this is the same justification the KKK used to pick on other racial groups.

Almost everywhere on earth now where there is terrorism … it’s promulgated by muslims.

Abortion bombings, Timothy McVeigh, the Irish Republican Army, the Tamil Tigers and many other incidents not remotely related the the united states. None of these involve muslims and these are far from insignificant. There are decent muslims that live quiet lives, and there are violent-non-muslims that also deserve justice.

Oh, and on feminism: feminists generally recognize that they can’t really do much about how people live half-way around the world. They can wag their finger and say “bad-muslims! Go open a school for girls or something!” (which they do) but there’s no legal framework. Rush on the otherhand, is an American and should know better.

Phandy: You should be Blogging over at the Daily KOS or www.dnc.org or www.liberalsloveCastro.commie
Don’t give me us this Neutrality _ _ _ _ _. Thank God for Foxnews Channel and QubeTV.

Ps Phandy I bet you were one of the _ _ _ _ _ _ that was carrying the F***the Troops Banner a few months back?

PPs Phandy “LIBERLISM” is a Religion

By no means do I support violence against abortion clinics and/or providers and/or staff members. But while an innocent baby or a few may have been saved from sure death by a bombing, there usually is no life saved by muslim terrorists or any other crazy person out there.

amylnitrate,

Every small town and even medium sized city here in Texas is conservative. Even in this year of the backlash in which we lost Congress and the Senate …. Texas increased its percentage of Republicans in the State House. You’ll find quite a few libs in the college towns. Austin is pretty liberal. But every county in Texas but for a few along the border and two college towns is run by Republicans. Now some of them are crooks and Texas has always had crooked Sheriffs here and there but this sort of behaviour is quite rare. Texas is sorta ‘clanish’ though. (not spelled with a k ) If you move here and join a church you’ll have no problem. Loners tend to stay loners around here though.

Re the banned vs. not-banned argument: one of the links above leads to a pulled notice on youtube and another one leads to "This video may contain content that is inappropriate for some users, as flagged by YouTube’s user community.

To view this video, please verify you are 18 or older by logging in or signing up."
So some places it was pulled and some it’s restricted. I’ll bet the youtube folks don’t want the death threats, etc that the Danish newspaper guys got.

Hi Scottr: Yep, I think I would truly enjoy Bush country!

Leftfood Leeds, Great poetry.

Islam is the enemy, and all these euphamisms tha skirt Islam’s complicity in 9/11 need to be ditched.
Islam cannot be managed or incorporated into Western culture.

Ooh, I’m so skeered of the Muslimists, oh please gub’mint please saaave me!
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Such faith in the power of government. You sound just like the “liberals” you bemoan. Don’t you understand the neoconservatives (they gave that name to themselves by the way) are just to the left of Stalin. They’re pro-war, pro-welfare, anti-gun and pro-abortion. What do you see in them?
Check out Ron Paul if you value your “conservative” credentials.
http://christians4paul.wordpress.com

The DNC’s marching orders are to try to split the Republican vote by getting some to vote for an unelectable candidate named Ron Paul. Well, the cat’s out of the bag and it won’t work!

Great comeback, Elmer.
Ron Paul is a moron beyond words, so that illustration says volumns.
Actually, 1776 China has set up equivalent inroads in the USA with running some of our western ports much like the Dubai nation would have been allotted our Eastern ports, not to mention obscene flooding of our society with their goods; a very bad dependence situation if relations sour to Cold War days.
The ‘gubnent’ as you put it, is responsible for the protection of the nation, like it or not; and so far, has only confused revalations of just who our enemies are. Islam is one of our enemies, and our government should say so.

ANYONE that cannot tell the difference between mass murdering fanatical religious terrorists and our small amount of religious fanatics that do not run around killing women and children (that we condem) probabily is a liberal – but NOT a 1776 Liberal. Just a today’s typical dumbass liberal. And according to you 1776liberal there is NO hell so I guess we’re not going, too bad for you!?

if you replace the mulims in this video with jews it would be banned from this site and u-tube.
only if you use Christains will you be allowed on both sites to bash them. the world is not fair but u-tube does much good even though it’s not perfect.

That’s some bullsh*t right there. I have no problem if it’s anti terrorist, but being anti muslim is not cool. Not all muslims are crazy suicide bombing a-holes. Make a distinction. My god. And by the way, it wouldn’t be cool with Jews or Christians, or anyone else.

hahaha michelle malkin is such trash. i wish i could give her a mirror and a history book so she could know what this same type of rhetoric resulted in for her ancestors. haha pure trash

this thing is all over youtube…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xovLtKmDqpg

This is in reply to both phandy and scottr.

You both raise good points, but fail to see the validity of each others arguments.

First of all, phandy, since your parents immigrated here from vietnam, presumably there was a reason for that. My guess is that it’s because the american way of life is more desirable than the vietnamese way of life. (by way of life, i of course am including the economy, the political structure, and pretty much everything that makes the US the US) granted there may be one or two things from other countries that are preferable to you or your parents, such as the food, or the language that is spoken, but on the whole, a decision was made to come to the US because as a whole, it affords a better lifestyle.

So on this issue, I must side with scottr. Screw the liberals who want to make everyone who immigrates here feel at home. If you wanted to feel at home, stay at home, if you want the US, well take it the way it is, don’t try to change it.

On the other hand, scottr, you seem to think that everything that is liberal is god-awful and that the only answer to the problems of this world is to kill em all(unless of course, they’re conservative). What bullshit. If you want to kill everyone and anyone who belongs to a religion that has killed in the name of said religion, the only people who would still be alive are the atheists(who i believe are also liberal). But lets play along with one of your statements… lets go back in time to when the constitution was written, and lets make sure that it can’t be changed, and while were at it, lets add a clause to make sure that no liberal ideas can ever flourish.

Fast forward to today. All of the scientific developments that were nurtured in universities or as a result of the existence of universities… gone. No NFL… well except for the quarterback, all the linemen would be in a field picking cotton. No NBA… same reason. Definitely no internet.

There are flaws to both the liberal and the conservative viewpoint, i think the biggest one being that neither is willing to even consider for a moment that the other one might not be completely full of shit. I agree with phanty… we need to stop this partisan bullshit and just sit down with facts.

For instance:
fact: people who immigrate to the US want to be american.

Conclusion: therefore why accomodate them? they want to be like us, fine they can be like us. in canada, during the winter, a muslim is allowed to take time at the end of the day to pray, on the bosses dime… does this make sense to you?

fact: the existence of god is speculation, as is the scientific belief in evolution.

Conculsion: We don’t know how the hell we got here, so lets stop making decisions based on faith… because that’s all it is. FAITH. it’s a great thing to give people hope, or inspire them, but it’s a horrible thing to mistake faith for fact and then act on it. A perfect example of what i mean is oh…. hmmm… lemme think about it for a minute… ISLAM. Granted it’s not all extreme, but here you have what should be rational, logical human beings, killing themselves for something that may or may not be true… make sense to you?

Anyway if anyone actually took the time to read that, then my thanks, and maybe it made sense, but for the love of god (or not) stop it with all the partisan bullshit.

Islam and Christianity must be stopped. More people have died in the name of Jesus Crist than any other person in history, but Islam is almost as horrible. Its only a matter of time before Islam equals Christianity in the amount of torture and horror it has caused. Faith is the problem in the world today, not just religion. Hitler and Stalin were non religious, but they still made their people have faith that Jews, Blacks, Gypsies, ect. deserve to die, just as Christians and Muslims say homosexuals and women shouldn’t have rights and on occasion deserve to die. These people have no reason to believe this other than their religion. Once people learn to think for themselves and not think what a preacher or terrorist tells them to. The idea that the Bible or other religious text is great because it teaches morals is ridiculous. Any person on earth can come up with any moral taught in the Bible. But to commit murder you need faith that your enemy is evil. Just think about hating a gay person because they are genetically different from yourelf. There have always been the same percent of homosexuals in every cuture or species, around 1 in ten people. If one religion was right then there would be no laws saying that killing is wrong. People know weather they can agnologe it or not that killing is wrong without having it told to them by an ancient book of stories that was written 300 years after jesus died.

Salman Rushdie, who the Muslims desperatly tried kill, was a liberal.

This video makes it seem like all the arabs are muslim radical jihadists. Some Arabs are Christians and other religious minorities who also get prosecuted by Muslim right wing nuts. Don’t forget about the right wing nuts we have in America who are blowing up abortion clinics and/or harrassing anyone who does not believe what they believe. Extremism is wrong whether it comes from the Muslims or Christians. So to answer Ann Coulter’s question: Are all Muslims terrorists? The answer would be, NO some of them are Christian and some of them are Jewish (Zionist Hagana, Irgun and Stern Gang groups). I don’t agree with this video being banned from you tube but I disagree with the video. If Nazis can have freedom of Speech so can Maglalang.

booyakaswha:
" I have no problem if it’s anti terrorist, but being anti muslim is not cool. Not all muslims are crazy suicide bombing a-holes. Make a distinction. My god. And by the way, it wouldn’t be cool with Jews or Christians, or anyone else."
A whole country, Iran, put out a hit on Rushdie, a Fatwa supported by the WHOLE Muslim ummah — sure plenty of Muslims wouldn’t murder anyone for speaking the truth about their repugnat religion, Islam, but those many Muslims also haven’t either the inclintion or power to keep those who would from doing so.
It’s uncool perhaps to slam an underdog but I don’t think this evil religion, Islam, qualifies as an underdog. What other religion has built in directives to MURDER those who don’t submit to it?

Umm, guys, this exact video IS on YouTube here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j-ssmR29g0

It says it was posted October 2006.

Perhaps they allowed the original to be reposted.
I doubt any lie was intentionally made regarding news of the video being deleted from the site.
People are nevertheless intimidated from Muslims around the world from saying anything negative about Islam … for what should to anybody be very obvious reasons.

in ameria it’s the zionist who have taken over ALL debate on anything jewish. the jews have passed laws in 6 countries that makes it a crime to disagree about how many jews were killed in ww2! yes you will be put in jail if you question what THE JEWS SAY ABOUT HISTORY from 70 years ago. and youre worried about muslims who were never charged with things like attacking a us navy ship and killing seaman, spying andsteeling usa secreats like mr. pollard etc the list goes on and on of jewish crimes against the west. the jews are also great lyers. theysay iran wants all jews to be killed and thrown in the sea. if thats true how come there are 20,00 thousand practizing jews living freely in iran? you see you only see what your jewesh master let you see. are you ashamed of the way you are treating muslims and christains?

in ameria it’s the zionist who have taken over ALL debate on anything jewish. the jews have passed laws in 6 countries that makes it a crime to disagree about how many jews were killed in ww2! yes you will be put in jail if you question what THE JEWS SAY ABOUT HISTORY from 70 years ago. and youre worried about muslims who were never charged with things like attacking a us navy ship and killing seaman, spying andsteeling usa secreats like mr. pollard etc the list goes on and on of jewish crimes against the west. the jews are also great lyers. theysay iran wants all jews to be killed and thrown in the sea. if thats true how come there are 20,00 thousand practizing jews living freely in iran? you see you only see what your jewesh master let you see. are you ashamed of the way you are treating muslims and christains?

in ameria it’s the zionist who have taken over ALL debate on anything jewish. the jews have passed laws in 6 countries that makes it a crime to disagree about how many jews were killed in ww2! yes you will be put in jail if you question what THE JEWS SAY ABOUT HISTORY from 70 years ago. and youre worried about muslims who were never charged with things like attacking a us navy ship and killing seaman, spying andsteeling usa secreats like mr. pollard etc the list goes on and on of jewish crimes against the west. the jews are also great lyers. theysay iran wants all jews to be killed and thrown in the sea. if thats true how come there are 20,00 thousand practizing jews living freely in iran? you see you only see what your jewesh master let you see. are you ashamed of the way you are treating muslims and christains?

…Evidently not obvious to this Frank14x guy. This idiot doesn’t even know what the subject is.

THIS WAS NEVER BANNED ON YOUTUBE

THE LINK IS RIGHT HERE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOb6Vh3qaAY

IT HAS BEEN THERE SINCE OCTOBER 22,2006

youtube does not delete videos based on political beliefs it is usually if it is inappropiate. Like Anime copyright laws.

This discourse of various views and opinions is interesting.

Somewhere in the middle though I found I fairly blatant error reguarding the writings found within
The New Testament of the King James bible.

It does not say, that a divorced man and woman should be killed.
Further I should point out, (since I’ve read it about 100 times),that it does NOT parallel the Koran,(which I’ve recently started reading).

The New Testament ‘King James’ Bible, made me a better person little by little, word by word.
Every moment of every day in my life is now ‘controlled’ by my understandings of the things I read there. I love everyone, forgive everything and give liberally.
The Koran, so far, seems to be the ‘rantings of a lunatic’.
I used to think, surely the two were similar, but after reading certain portions of the Koran I was saddened to find that it seemed to be written by a psycho.
Its no wonder the Muslims are so far off track!
What’s really upsetting about these folks (the Muslims) is that they’re giving GOD a bad name, sort of.
They will ultimately ‘reap what they’ve sown’. May God have mercy on their souls.

and worse off i can’t even see if their women are attractive or not with those carpets covering their heads! everyone knows god likes his arab coochie.

i am god by the way.

Seriously, have you considered taking down the “banned by YouTube”, because you know, it was never actually banned by YouTube.

Sort of makes qube look a little paranoid.

Seriously, who cares ; it was no doubt an honest mistake… if a mistake at all; and, the fact is, most news organizations are way too apologetic to Islam if not bought off, or even intimidated by them.
Islam is an enemy that needs to be confronted; and millions within it’s ranks need to understand why Islam is a bad system.

Ohthehumanity

Many things wrong with your reply:
A) I live in Canada (an honest mistake I’m sure)
B) My parents moved here because my mom’s entire family was killed during the Vietnam War. They would have moved to any country that would take them really.
C) America’s way of life is only vastly superior because they bombed the country with chemical weapons (Agent Orange), and ran killer carpet bombing campaigns that set back the country’s development back 50-100 years. Millions of civilians died due to this needless war, including most of my family who I never got to know.
D) 99% of Americans are descended from immigrants. The only native Americans out there are…. native American. The country was built by immigrants from Italy, Ireland, England, and all over Europe not to mention the slaves and the Chinese who built your railroad. Trace back your family long enough and I bet you they got here by boat.
E) Everyone takes time off on the bosses dime during the winter, even in America. Don’t you get paid vacation time during Christmas? Everyone gets paid on religious holidays, immigrant or not.

I know I seem like a liberal, but you should understand that even conservative ideas in Canada are liberal by American standards. I’m glad you have an open mind and realize that both sides contribute to a better world. What I like about conservatism is the idea of fiscal responsibility of the government and their aversion to new taxation but that’s about it.

It’s pretty easy to find people who will say the things that fit your own personal ideologies, isn’t it? Out of the thousands of soldiers who will tell you the good they are doing in Iraq you may find a handful who are malcontents for one reason or another. Propaganda and sour grapes go together, hand in hand.

If liberals could really think, they’d be dangerous.

Political Correctness is a false idol and false god.

Political correctness is ridiculousness in its most ridiculous level in every sense of the word.
Those damn liberals made that word up to cover the real evil behind it.

Now that a couple of folks have found this video on YouTube, why does the home page of QubeTV still feature the banner saying that this video was banned on YouTube?

WARMONGERS, WARMONERS THE WHOLE LOT OF YOU. DOES EVERYONE SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS WITH THE POINT OF A SWORD, NO THATS WHY PEOPLE INVENTED DIPLOMCY BECAUSE IF WE DID SOLVE EVERYTHING WITH A SWORD THEN THERE WOULD BE NONE LEFT TO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH BECAUSE EVERY SINGE MAN WOMAN AND CHILD WOULD BE DEAD.

Excellent video. However, you omitted the very first victim of Al Qaeda Muslim terrorism: Rabbi Meir Kahane, who was assassinated while delivering a speech in New York on November 5, 1990. The same Al Qaeda Muslim terrorists who murdered Rabbi Kahane then went on to bomb the World Trade Center the first time in February 1993. G-d willing, we will be uploading videos explaining why Al Qaeda felt it was so important to murder Rabbi Kahane before beginning their campaign of Islamic Nazi terror.

I just checked. It is still on You Tube.

cas5056: Why don’t you tell that to the Islamic terrorists??? The problem is some people in the West really do believe that diplomacy can work – that is why that Annapolis meeting is being held.

They banned it because they are fearfull of savages with a third world mentality,

youtube is actively banning, suspending, and deleting those that challenge their ultra-liberal world view. i was one of their many victims of blatant censorship. i’m sure they’ll continue to blame Fox News for all this partisanship.

I liked the video’s allusion to Niemoller’s alleged comment about Hitler, you know — the one which began with, “when they came for the Communists, I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a communist.” It set the video tone succinctly and well. If the video was banned in Youtube for awhile, that allusion would be why, I’d bet money!

Experiment: take the lies and clever propaganda used by Hitler and Goebbels, trace its paths; then, do the same thing with the communist propaganda (i.e., in Pravda and other materials during the Soviet regime); then, do the same thing with the 100 Flowers Movement/Cultural Revolution propaganda in China. Then: do the same thing with Islam.

EXACT SAME METHODS are used: 1. Tell the truth, 2. then shave it, then 3. end with the BIG LIE you want believed. Dr. Naik uses this approach, so compare what he says with the methods used by Nazis and communists of yesteryear. Amazing stuff.

Islam is the most dangerous thing in history. The Islam we see today was always the same.

Hey, you know why “conservatives” who defend an illegal war, the decimation of individual liberty at home, and a President who has expanded government and spending more than LBJ, need their own personal YouTube so their content doesn’t get banned?

Because they’re the lunatic fringe.

http://tinyurl.com/2jq2v3

This is basically what I believe.
So by my estimation, the people this website was built for are the absolute WORST OF THE LEFT.

YouTube are dhimmis. (2nd class citizens under islamic law)
They ban free speech and every video critical of islam to comply with sharia law. Watch my video where I answer and expose them.

What the hell. politically correct organizations ban videos and media against islam, yet they let free those just as offensive media against Christianity? Are they outta their mind!? Are they cowards!?

Umm, guys, it’s still on Youtube. Why not find a video that actually is banned by Youtube and use that as the title banner for QubeTV?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE29Zs3aPos

At least at youtube, you can post videos. Who’s running this site, Michael Brown?, Harriet Myers?, Alberto Gonzoles? This site has been dead in the water for months!

Porky Obama

Great Job, Stand up America